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From the files of Dave Melton

“We’ve changed everything… Now what?”

More Classic Cases of “Parts-Throwing Diagnostics“

The Vehicle:

1989 Chevrolet Beretta, 3.1L equipped with PFI, DIS and Manual Transmission

The Problem:

SES light flickers and engine stalls when coming to a stop; no stored trouble codes

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Repairs Performed:

Throttle body cleaned; ignition module, coil pack, IACV and ECM replaced

Dave’s Diagnosis:

The car didn’t exhibit any problems during a test drive, so this appeared to be an intermittent malfunction. The vehicle owner was contacted to see if we could get any additional information, and when asked when the problem first started occurring, the response was “about 3 weeks ago.” One of the students pointed out that a hot-weather trend had started about — you guessed it — 3 weeks ago.

Back into the car for another test drive with the air conditioning on, and when we slowed to a stop, sure enough, the SES light flickered and the engine died. Next, we connected a scan tool, armed the snapshot mode and drove the car again. We coasted to a stop, the light flickered, the engine stalled and we captured the scan data.

Back in the shop, we analyzed the data, frame by frame. Nothing at first, but then we saw it: the Knock Sensor line read: NO-NO-NO-NO-YES-NO-NO-NO-NO. We compared the Timing Advance line and there it was: 17-17-17-17-0-17-17-17-17. We found the problem, but what was causing it?

We’re fortunate enough to have a dynamometer in the shop, so we tried to recreate the conditions in the shop. It didn't take long to find our root cause. When the car accelerated, the engine jumped up about 3 inches. When the car decelerated, the A/C compressor disengaged momentarily, the engine rose another inch, the A/C re-engaged and the engine settled back down with a thud. Oldest problem in the world: a collapsed engine mount insulator.

When the engine dropped, the mount would contact the frame and the resulting vibration was transmitted to the ECM as detonation. The bottom line was the ECM was trying to correct a problem that didn't really exist!

Why didn't the original technicians find the bad motor mount? Two reasons: a bad mount tends to be less apparent in a manual transmission-equipped vehicle, and more importantly, they didn’t test drive the car with the A/C on. In other words, the car never exhibited the symptom while they were diagnosing it! Talk about shooting blind!

The Vehicle:

1986 Buick Century, 3.0L. equipped with PFI, DIS and Automatic Transmission

The Problem:

Runs poorly, SES light on, DTC 34 (MAF sensor circuit voltage low)

Repairs Performed:

2 MAF Sensors and ECM replaced

Dave’s Diagnosis:

This one took the class about 2 minutes to diagnose. When the engine started it ran terrible, but what got our attention was how quiet the exhaust was. Too quiet. A walk to the rear of the ear revealed that nothing was coming out of the exhaust pipe. The oxygen sensor was removed, the car restarted. A mushroom cloud of carbon blew out of the O2 sensor port, the car ran great (loud but great) and no SES light: Plugged converter.

The trouble code and SES light were the ECM’s way of screaming for help. As the exhaust backpressure increased, the airflow into the intake manifold decreased and the RPM just didn’t correspond with the calculated load.

Too often, a technician focuses on being a diagnostician and forgets to be a mechanic!

The Vehicle:

1989 Dodge Caravan 3.0L. equipped with PFI, Distributor Ignition and Automatic Transmission

The Problem:

Surges at freeway speeds after 30–40 minutes of operation; no stored trouble codes

Repairs Performed:

Distributor cap, rotor, ignition wires, fuel filter, TPS, MAP and O2 sensor replaced, fuel pressure and volume tested okay

Dave’s Diagnosis:

The first step was to recreate the problem. We attached a scan tool, armed the snapshot mode and headed for the freeway. Sure enough, after about 35 minutes the van began to surge: Symptom confirmed.

Back at the shop, the captured scan data revealed normal parameters, but we noticed that when the surge began, the O2 voltage was biased low and the injector pulse width was increasing. The computer was responding correctly to the oxygen sensor input, so the indication was a mechanical problem. Something was leaning it out.

Next, we checked the fuel pressure. It held steady at 48 PSI, right at specification. Accelerate the engine and the pressure responds accordingly. Disconnect the regulator vacuum hose, 57 PSI. No problem there.

We left the van idling and rechecked the specs in another manual. We returned to the van and did a double-take: The pressure now read 42 PSI. As we watched in disbelief, the pressure almost imperceptibly continued to drop and after 15 minutes read 36 PSI. The fuel pump was slowing down!

As with any aging electric motor, the longer a worn fuel pump runs, the more current it draws and the slower it spins. While this might not be critical on a power window, it sure makes a difference when it involves fuel supply.

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